Paul McCartney, Dakota Johnson & more in New York City

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Re: Paul McCartney, Dakota Johnson & more in New York City

Post by AJLe » March 3rd, 2015, 2:37 pm

Congrats on the McCartney photo - I'm not even a music guy at all, and even I'm way impressed with that one.
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class316 wrote: While most of us were staying warm and relaxing that evening, Joresky was freezing out in the cold and got a Paul Mac shot. Joresky is the winner there.
only if you have any interest in meeting him...since I could care less, I'd take the warmth every time...
Absolutely, it all comes down to level of want. If you're out in sub-zero weather in just a "let's see what random famous people will show up" mode, you're pretty insane, IMO. But if it's a major want and you're a big fan, it's definitely worth it. There's a very short list of people I'd be out on a subzero NYC street at 3 AM waiting for (and the probability for success would have to be fairly high as well), but the list does exist.


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Re: Paul McCartney, Dakota Johnson & more in New York City

Post by Joresky » March 3rd, 2015, 2:44 pm

AJLe wrote:Congrats on the McCartney photo - I'm not even a music guy at all, and even I'm way impressed with that one.
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class316 wrote: While most of us were staying warm and relaxing that evening, Joresky was freezing out in the cold and got a Paul Mac shot. Joresky is the winner there.
only if you have any interest in meeting him...since I could care less, I'd take the warmth every time...
Absolutely, it all comes down to level of want. If you're out in sub-zero weather in just a "let's see what random famous people will show up" mode, you're pretty insane, IMO. But if it's a major want and you're a big fan, it's definitely worth it. There's a very short list of people I'd be out on a subzero NYC street at 3 AM waiting for (and the probability for success would have to be fairly high as well), but the list does exist.
Agreed... to me a Dakota Johnson photo op was worth this kind of effort (even though I didn't get a quality pic).. but the night turned into a colossal success, McCartney is 1000% worth it in my opinion

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Re: Paul McCartney, Dakota Johnson & more in New York City

Post by Greg2600 » March 3rd, 2015, 3:02 pm

AJLe wrote:Absolutely, it all comes down to level of want. If you're out in sub-zero weather in just a "let's see what random famous people will show up" mode, you're pretty insane, IMO. But if it's a major want and you're a big fan, it's definitely worth it. There's a very short list of people I'd be out on a subzero NYC street at 3 AM waiting for (and the probability for success would have to be fairly high as well), but the list does exist.
He was in the random people will show up mode, in sub-zero temps! Just got amazingly lucky that Paul happened to show up at that spot on that night! He was trying to salvage his night with Bill Nye and Al Roker of all people, and steps in Heaven with Paul Mc. I think Jeremiah should retire now while he's ahead. :likewhatsee:
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Re: Paul McCartney, Dakota Johnson & more in New York City

Post by class316 » March 3rd, 2015, 3:12 pm

AJLe wrote:Absolutely, it all comes down to level of want. If you're out in sub-zero weather in just a "let's see what random famous people will show up" mode, you're pretty insane, IMO.
But you see, this is EXACTLY what he was doing. I've had this debate with both you and DJknightrida in the past.

The reason I didn't come up is because I knew the even with all the comedians spot would be a bust (and I was right) and I did not think Dakota Johnson (the best confirmed name at that spot) was worth staying up late at night in the cold for.

But the Dakota spot potentially generates a lot of randoms. I was afraid to risk standing in the cold for the randoms.

Joresky on the other hand took the risk, and stood just stood there to see who would show up. And who showed up? Paul Mac! Joresky did the exact "pretty insane" thing as you put it (and as DJknightrida criticized me for doing in the past) and it paid off 1000 fold for Joresky.

I will add in the Dakota spot I've stood there MANY times just to "see what I can get" and I've gotten major wants that way. Other times though it was a miserable bust and I went to my car and slept depressed. But as can be seen in this report, gotta play to win.
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Re: Paul McCartney, Dakota Johnson & more in New York City

Post by Joresky » March 3rd, 2015, 3:37 pm

Dakota was a pretty big want of mine but I admit a huge reason I go to that spot is the potential for randoms and yes it paid off big time on this occasion... like class says "gotta play to win"


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Re: Paul McCartney, Dakota Johnson & more in New York City

Post by class316 » March 3rd, 2015, 3:43 pm

Joresky wrote:Dakota was a pretty big want of mine but I admit a huge reason I go to that spot is the potential for randoms and yes it paid off big time on this occasion... like class says "gotta play to win"
Wasn't it not too long ago I said Dakota Johnson was staying at a certain place and you didn't even know how that was :haeh2: :haeh2: :haeh2: Now she is a "pretty big" want?

That being said, she is a want of mine, but not a "freeze out in the cold for a chance at her" want.

And a shot as bad as yours would have made it a total bust, in my opinion. But the combo Gods took pity on you and redeemed your evening 1000 fold.
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Re: Paul McCartney, Dakota Johnson & more in New York City

Post by Joresky » March 3rd, 2015, 3:53 pm

Yes she is a pretty big want of mine.. her star is rising pretty fast now because of a certain movie that just came out.. and yes the shot was so blurry the trip was almost a bust so i'm definitely very VERY grateful to the combo Gods for redeeming my night :praise:

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Re: Paul McCartney, Dakota Johnson & more in New York City

Post by AJLe » March 3rd, 2015, 4:03 pm

class316 wrote:I will add in the Dakota spot I've stood there MANY times just to "see what I can get" and I've gotten major wants that way. Other times though it was a miserable bust and I went to my car and slept depressed. But as can be seen in this report, gotta play to win.
No, you most definitely do not gotta "play" that way to win. I don't know him, but Joresky seems like a decent guy and I have nothing against him. But yeah - if you're travelling from out of state into NYC in subzero weather, with no specifics, and just a "Hey, let's hope somebody famous comes out and if they do, I'll get whoever that happens to be" approach, that's bordering on an unhealthy obsession, IMO. The guy's and adult who works multiple jobs and AFAIK isn't living off of anybody else's dime, so I won't tell him how to spend his time and money, I just think it's kinda going overboard, that's all.

Like I said, I'm not a music guy, so I wouldn't put in the necessary money or effort for McCartney even in a sure-thing paid setting (again, the difference between people who do this hobby because they're fans of the specific people they go for, and the "collect them all" method that you apparently do), but I do personally know people who have gotten McCartney by getting their own info, going to spots specifically for him, because they are fans, and not just doing the "randomly waiting around for anybody famous" thing, and they've had success with him too. So your methods are just a choice you make, not a necessity for the hobby.

So choose whatever method you want, but claiming that people just got to randomly go to these pot-luck type spots to get McCartney level names is just factually wrong.

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Re: Paul McCartney, Dakota Johnson & more in New York City

Post by Greg2600 » March 3rd, 2015, 4:06 pm

Well the comedy spot was a bust for Joresky only because he had nearly everyone there already, wasn't for me though. It was super cold on Saturday, and Joresky stood outside pretty much nonstop from midday through nearly dawn I guess. That's dedication, bordering on madness, but dedication. Like I said, I am highly pleased that if anyone were to get Macca it was Jeremiah, and the manner in which he did was pure luck but it was the result of quite a bit of hardship. If someone had just spotted him at a restaurant completely out of the blue and got him, I'd be enraged! HA HA HA.

Class, come on, Joresky is a combo socialist, everyone is equally wanted! Without a doubt I've personally given up chances at young people who are now big names. But you can't be everywhere at once, and I'd rather get the people I like first. There is so little I actually enjoy now in film and TV that "new wants" are pretty slim for me. I did sort of pass on Taylor Swift a few years ago. She was already big, and may well have denied me, but I just knew her as a country singer and I FUCKING HATE country music.

AJ, it's true Joresky did not know who he would get that night, but the spot he attends does produce randoms, and he's done very well this season with them. Chunk from Goonies, Dave Chappelle, Paul McCartney, cast of The League, that's just off the top of my head. I REALLY regret the Chappelle thing because it wasn't that cold that night, and I could have hung around for him but didn't, and Dave was very accommodating. As for getting info, that's easier said than done. Especially for someone who lives in Maryland not New York. Although he DID want Dakota Johnson. If it weren't so damn cold I would have gone there for Don and Melanie though.
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Re: Paul McCartney, Dakota Johnson & more in New York City

Post by Joresky » March 3rd, 2015, 4:26 pm

In October I got Seth Rogen randomly at this spot.. another huge want of mine.. this is why I will be frequenting this spot as much as possible for the forseeable future.. I will just know that this method could result in failure at times but to me its definitely worth the risk considering the success I've had

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Re: Paul McCartney, Dakota Johnson & more in New York City

Post by class316 » March 3rd, 2015, 7:15 pm

AJLe wrote:No, you most definitely do not gotta "play" that way to win. I don't know him, but Joresky seems like a decent guy and I have nothing against him. But yeah - if you're travelling from out of state into NYC in subzero weather, with no specifics, and just a "Hey, let's hope somebody famous comes out and if they do, I'll get whoever that happens to be" approach, that's bordering on an unhealthy obsession, IMO. The guy's and adult who works multiple jobs and AFAIK isn't living off of anybody else's dime, so I won't tell him how to spend his time and money, I just think it's kinda going overboard, that's all.
I don't know how you define "play" but you most definitely gotta play to win. If you're going to a relatively known spot to stand across the street to get somebody specific, you are playing in the hopes of winning. Whether you're going for specifics or randoms is irrelevant.

I've had epic failure and epic success going for known specifics, and I've had epic failure and epic success standing randomly.
Like I said, I'm not a music guy, so I wouldn't put in the necessary money or effort for McCartney even in a sure-thing paid setting (again, the difference between people who do this hobby because they're fans of the specific people they go for, and the "collect them all" method that you apparently do),
I'm not a "collect them all" type of guy. I don't know why you would think that. When I go to Chiller you never see me getting everybody that charges $20 for a combo. And while I do get anyone I see even if I don't care for them while waiting in random spots, if I get no one I care about I consider it a bust. Just like you can go for specifics and end up in a bust (case in point Joresky failed to get Bill Nye).
but I do personally know people who have gotten McCartney by getting their own info, going to spots specifically for him, because they are fans, and not just doing the "randomly waiting around for anybody famous" thing, and they've had success with him too.
I've had multi autograph successes going for Paul in specific spots. But no photo ops sadly. The reason Joresky succeeded at a photo op was because no one knew he was going to be there. Hence there were no 100 people waiting for him.
So your methods are just a choice you make, not a necessity for the hobby.
100% agreed. Personally I like to use as many methods as I can. Because more methods mean more success. It's fine to choose to go for specifics (as you like to do). But to say it's stupid or obsessive to wait randomly is jut being narrow minded. I've had multi epic successes getting huge wants waiting randomly. Plus I don't believe that going for specifics is stupid as I also do that. All methods can lead to success and failure in this hobby or jobby (however one looks at it).
So choose whatever method you want, but claiming that people just got to randomly go to these pot-luck type spots to get McCartney level names is just factually wrong.
Not factually wrong as me, Joresky, and several people we know stand in these kind of spots for good randoms. You may not always get A level McCartney names each and every time, but if I get a couple of the more probably B names I walk away happy. And when I do get the occasional A lister, that's a drug type feeling like no other. Especially when you take into account you have a better CHANCE at getting these A list names if they show up in these type of spots since no one actually knows they're going to be there.

For reference, this is the discussion I had with Djknightrida about this very topic: http://forum.markedout.com/viewtopic.ph ... 97#p194897
Greg2600 wrote:Well the comedy spot was a bust for Joresky only because he had nearly everyone there already, wasn't for me though.
Pretty much all the names that came over are names I have or don't care for, so definitely would have been a bust for me.
Class, come on, Joresky is a combo socialist, everyone is equally wanted!
True that. I guess more chance he is happy standing randomly than I am. But as I stated I've had both success and failure standing randomly.
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Re: Paul McCartney, Dakota Johnson & more in New York City

Post by heelorton79 » March 4th, 2015, 4:05 pm

Awesome...totally awesome.

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Re: Paul McCartney, Dakota Johnson & more in New York City

Post by Greg2600 » February 8th, 2020, 10:45 pm

Bump for restored photos (also fixed the blurry Dakota somewhat) from perhaps the greatest street meet in Marked Out history.
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Re: Paul McCartney, Dakota Johnson & more in New York City

Post by AJLe » February 8th, 2020, 10:54 pm

Didn't realize this was a bumped thread at first - I thought Joresky went and got McCartney again, lol!


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