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Debating Kane, RF, Pedo's, and more

Post by cmshowstopper » August 24th, 2018, 6:44 pm

class316 wrote:
August 24th, 2018, 4:40 pm
Guessing this is how Kane will look at Hunt Valley

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Mayor associating with known pedophile? Probably not the best way to get the political career started. Urban Meyer thrown under bus by media...but this is ok?!
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Re: Monster Mania 41- September 28-30, 2018- Hunt Valley, MD

Post by Greg2600 » August 24th, 2018, 7:53 pm

The coverup is always worse than the crime! Urban tried to cover it up. RF got outed fairly publicly!
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Re: Monster Mania 41- September 28-30, 2018- Hunt Valley, MD

Post by AJLe » August 25th, 2018, 11:38 am

If he was running as a major congressional or Presidential candidate, his political opposition would pick up on the Feinstein story and being associated with him would be a problem. He could explain away a photo by saying RF was one of many fans who paid to be in his line, but if stuff came out that Rob repped him at cons or otherwise did business with him, it would come back to bite him. But for a mayoral race, the media was not going to dig deep enough to know the RF story or care.

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Re: Monster Mania 41- September 28-30, 2018- Hunt Valley, MD

Post by cmshowstopper » August 25th, 2018, 6:15 pm

Greg2600 wrote:
August 24th, 2018, 7:53 pm
The coverup is always worse than the crime! Urban tried to cover it up. RF got outed fairly publicly!
Urban covered what up?! There was nothing to cover up. He isnt a criminal.
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Re: Monster Mania 41- September 28-30, 2018- Hunt Valley, MD

Post by Greg2600 » August 25th, 2018, 7:29 pm

cmshowstopper wrote:
August 25th, 2018, 6:15 pm
Greg2600 wrote:
August 24th, 2018, 7:53 pm
The coverup is always worse than the crime! Urban tried to cover it up. RF got outed fairly publicly!
Urban covered what up?! There was nothing to cover up. He isnt a criminal.
Lied about knowing about the abuse. Tried to delete text messages on university phone. If he was teaching English he'd be gone. But all hail football.
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Re: Monster Mania 41- September 28-30, 2018- Hunt Valley, MD

Post by cmshowstopper » August 25th, 2018, 10:47 pm

Greg2600 wrote:
August 25th, 2018, 7:29 pm
cmshowstopper wrote:
August 25th, 2018, 6:15 pm
Greg2600 wrote:
August 24th, 2018, 7:53 pm
The coverup is always worse than the crime! Urban tried to cover it up. RF got outed fairly publicly!
Urban covered what up?! There was nothing to cover up. He isnt a criminal.
Lied about knowing about the abuse. Tried to delete text messages on university phone. If he was teaching English he'd be gone. But all hail football.
Lied to the media. Who cares? The media lies so damn much, they oughta give him props for it.

Deleting text messages about potential abuse that he already reported. Who cares?

Football coach, English teacher, janitor...doesnt matter. None of them should be fired nor be facing any disciplinary action. Courtney Smith's own mother didnt report the abuse. Where is the media hanging her out to dry? Why isnt it her responsibility? Oh...because no one cares about Courtney Smith's mother. Thats why.
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Re: Monster Mania 41- September 28-30, 2018- Hunt Valley, MD

Post by ivpvideos » August 26th, 2018, 12:51 am

AJLe wrote:
August 25th, 2018, 11:38 am
If he was running as a major congressional or Presidential candidate, his political opposition would pick up on the Feinstein story and being associated with him would be a problem. He could explain away a photo by saying RF was one of many fans who paid to be in his line, but if stuff came out that Rob repped him at cons or otherwise did business with him, it would come back to bite him. But for a mayoral race, the media was not going to dig deep enough to know the RF story or care.
RF got INSANELY lucky that the group that popped him did the sting without working with the police. A year later, the same group created To Catch A Predator.

At this point, the RF stuff is ancient history that won’t be held against him to the masses. It is an event that happened 15 years ago where he was never charged with a crime.

Completely gross and unfair but it is what it is.
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Re: Monster Mania 41- September 28-30, 2018- Hunt Valley, MD

Post by class316 » August 26th, 2018, 1:24 am

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August 26th, 2018, 12:51 am
RF got INSANELY lucky that the group that popped him did the sting without working with the police. A year later, the same group created To Catch A Predator.
Haeh? No they didn't. NBC created tcap and hired that group.

Also, even the first couple of tcap stings they did not work with police, though most everyone in those respective stings ended up getting charged and convicted as evidence was submitted to police. In fact many are RSOs to this day.
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Re: Monster Mania 41- September 28-30, 2018- Hunt Valley, MD

Post by AJLe » August 26th, 2018, 8:14 am

ivpvideos wrote:
August 26th, 2018, 12:51 am
RF got INSANELY lucky that the group that popped him did the sting without working with the police. A year later, the same group created To Catch A Predator.

At this point, the RF stuff is ancient history that won’t be held against him to the masses. It is an event that happened 15 years ago where he was never charged with a crime.

Completely gross and unfair but it is what it is.
If he got attached to a national media story that they cared about, the length of time wouldn't matter. I mean, pretty much all of the current Hollywood sex scandals are over stuff that happened as long or longer than what Feinstein did, but the difference is it's involving people that the media cares about.

But the sad thing is, "the masses" didn't hold it against him THEN, let alone now. He got ousted by ROH, but workers never stopped doing shoot interviews with him, never stopped working with him at cons, never stopped doing indy shows he promoted, etc. So many of the workers who go on social media and (rightfully) condemn people in the wrestling business over issues of domestic violence, racism, sexism, etc. either turn a blind eye to Rob's continued involvement in the business, or openly work with him/defend him. Funny how their morals and priciples go out the window when there's money to be made.

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Re: Monster Mania 41- September 28-30, 2018- Hunt Valley, MD

Post by ivpvideos » August 26th, 2018, 9:18 am

class316 wrote:
August 26th, 2018, 1:24 am
ivpvideos wrote:
August 26th, 2018, 12:51 am
RF got INSANELY lucky that the group that popped him did the sting without working with the police. A year later, the same group created To Catch A Predator.
Haeh? No they didn't. NBC created tcap and hired that group.

Also, even the first couple of tcap stings they did not work with police, though most everyone in those respective stings ended up getting charged and convicted as evidence was submitted to police. In fact many are RSOs to this day.
Either way, that group that busted RF went on to be To Catch A Predator. The group actually got into a lot of trouble for luring sexual predators into this neighborhood without telling anyone ahead of time. That is the only reason RF never got charged.
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Re: Monster Mania 41- September 28-30, 2018- Hunt Valley, MD

Post by cmshowstopper » August 26th, 2018, 3:26 pm

AJLe wrote:
August 26th, 2018, 8:14 am
ivpvideos wrote:
August 26th, 2018, 12:51 am
RF got INSANELY lucky that the group that popped him did the sting without working with the police. A year later, the same group created To Catch A Predator.

At this point, the RF stuff is ancient history that won’t be held against him to the masses. It is an event that happened 15 years ago where he was never charged with a crime.

Completely gross and unfair but it is what it is.
If he got attached to a national media story that they cared about, the length of time wouldn't matter. I mean, pretty much all of the current Hollywood sex scandals are over stuff that happened as long or longer than what Feinstein did, but the difference is it's involving people that the media cares about.

But the sad thing is, "the masses" didn't hold it against him THEN, let alone now. He got ousted by ROH, but workers never stopped doing shoot interviews with him, never stopped working with him at cons, never stopped doing indy shows he promoted, etc. So many of the workers who go on social media and (rightfully) condemn people in the wrestling business over issues of domestic violence, racism, sexism, etc. either turn a blind eye to Rob's continued involvement in the business, or openly work with him/defend him. Funny how their morals and priciples go out the window when there's money to be made.
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Re: Monster Mania 41- September 28-30, 2018- Hunt Valley, MD

Post by oldschoolwwwf » August 26th, 2018, 5:57 pm

I remember him getting popped by the video thing back then and while he kept his video business, I seem to remember it costing him ROH...while he should have gone to jail for trying to hook up with a male underage child, he cost himself ownership in what has become a way bigger wrestling promotion then he could have ever dreamed of.. whether he’d still own it or cashed out years ago huge, he’s got to always be wondering what if. He deserves worse but that’s gotta sting like hell.

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Re: Monster Mania 41- September 28-30, 2018- Hunt Valley, MD

Post by mrira » August 26th, 2018, 6:24 pm

oldschoolwwwf wrote:
August 26th, 2018, 5:57 pm
I remember him getting popped by the video thing back then and while he kept his video business, I seem to remember it costing him ROH...while he should have gone to jail for trying to hook up with a male underage child, he cost himself ownership in what has become a way bigger wrestling promotion then he could have ever dreamed of.. whether he’d still own it or cashed out years ago huge, he’s got to always be wondering what if. He deserves worse but that’s gotta sting like hell.
100% would of cashed out of ROH by now. He may have made a few more bucks off the sale, but I doubt ROH would be the #2 company in the US under RF

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Re: Monster Mania 41- September 28-30, 2018- Hunt Valley, MD

Post by ivpvideos » August 26th, 2018, 11:13 pm

oldschoolwwwf wrote:
August 26th, 2018, 5:57 pm
I remember him getting popped by the video thing back then and while he kept his video business, I seem to remember it costing him ROH...while he should have gone to jail for trying to hook up with a male underage child, he cost himself ownership in what has become a way bigger wrestling promotion then he could have ever dreamed of.. whether he’d still own it or cashed out years ago huge, he’s got to always be wondering what if. He deserves worse but that’s gotta sting like hell.
Cary Silken had already bought in at that point so RF probably would have been gone.

Class, it took several years for RF to be able to move freely in the wrestling world. Shoot interviews stopped coming out, he lost his offices and had to move everything to his basement. Any time he tried to get involved in an indie show, people would contact the venue. It was so bad that two days before a show he had his hand in, they moved the venue but told people to show up to the original venue to get the address for the new venue.

He somehow survived that time period and enough people moved on that he was able to slither his way back to where he is at now.
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Re: Monster Mania 41- September 28-30, 2018- Hunt Valley, MD

Post by class316 » August 27th, 2018, 2:01 pm

mrira wrote:
August 26th, 2018, 6:24 pm
100% would of cashed out of ROH by now. He may have made a few more bucks off the sale, but I doubt ROH would be the #2 company in the US under RF
RF left ROH in 2004, two years after he found it. So he left at basically its infancy. Would ROH have flourished under RF to what it is today? The world shall never know.
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